Greasy cupcake cups

abyoshikawa

I would like to know how I can avoid having greasy cupcake cups. I have found that none of the decorative elements of the cups remain visible after the cupcakes are baked.

What can I do?

badge posted by: abyoshikawa on April 17, 2012 at 12:58 am in Baking, desserts and sweets
tags: cupcake, cups, Greasy
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reply by: Mike Nolan on April 17, 2012 at 2:11 am
Mike Nolan

What recipe are you using?

reply by: GinaG on April 17, 2012 at 2:21 am
GinaG

Foil lined baking cups:

http://www.cupcakecentral.com/bfy-about.aspx

That's just one source, (Reynolds) and I picked them for you to peek at because they're available at most grocery stores, but they're pretty main-stream these days and all baking supply stores carry them. WWW.Kitchenkraft.com has a huge selection and they're reasonably priced.

Any kind of parchment type cup will absorb moisture and diffuse the printed pattern on the cup. Another option you have is cupcake wrappers:

http://www.dressmycupcake.com/

I hope this helps you!
~GinaG.

reply by: swirth on April 17, 2012 at 7:26 am
swirth

Many years ago, when the Baker's Catalogue started offering the many colors of 'swirled' cupcake liners, they showed that they baked them in one plain liner then set that into the fresh 'swirled' patterned ones for pretty display.

That same info can be found if you Google on 'grease proof cupcake liners' (omit quotes) which will also give you just what you need to solve your soaked-thru cupcake papers...many sources are shown.

I've baked many, many thousands of cupcakes and muffins and the greaseproof papers are such a joy to use...I used to buy mine from Sweet Celebrations but they went out of business a few years back.

Many of these greaseproof papers are made in Sweden, I think.

Hope this will make your cupcake baking a joy!

reply by: abyoshikawa on April 17, 2012 at 7:02 pm
abyoshikawa

I've had this happen every time I've used decorative cupcake cups. It seems odd that this has been such a consistent problem. Initially, I thought that I had been doing something wrong, but based on the other responses, there are products that are substandard.

reply by: abyoshikawa on April 17, 2012 at 7:05 pm
abyoshikawa

Thanks for the information.

It's unfortunate that these great designs are so flawed.

reply by: swirth on April 17, 2012 at 9:22 pm
swirth

The most gorgeous greaseproof cupcake liners I ever had were fall leaves patterned and the insides were snow white as they were silicone coated on the inside...that's what made them greaseproof...I got a huge qty. of them before Sweet Celebrations went out of business. I used them in my square muffin pans and made brownies and all kinds of muffin flavors in them and added little gingerbread boy pics...talk about beautiful presentation!

The greaseproof liners are so worth the extra $$$!

reply by: frick on April 17, 2012 at 9:30 pm
frick

I wish I had known that trick -- to bake them in the plain papers -- then set them in the fancy ones, BEFORE last Christmas. Cupcakes good, papers bad. Another day I learned something new.

reply by: GinaG on April 17, 2012 at 10:13 pm
GinaG

My mother always had us double the cake papers for cupcakes, I never questioned it.

reply by: swirth on April 17, 2012 at 10:35 pm
swirth

frick...I think there's a blog post showing the green, etc., swirls cupcake liners and it either mentions using the plain paper ones then setting all of that into the pretty ones or this is shown in the pic.

Here you go...a great show and tell and I even recalled what month and year it was...I'd helped reagan find this article way back then as she was making 100 or more for a company meal:

http://www.kingarthurflour.com/blog/2009/05/27/fluffy-white-icing-a-7-mi...

reply by: swirth on April 18, 2012 at 6:34 am
swirth

And, here's the even better close up of the swirl cupcake liners using just one liner and using two liners...really shows the benefits:

http://www.kingarthurflour.com/blog/2009/02/20/irish-bread-american-style/

reply by: swirth on April 19, 2012 at 2:39 pm
swirth

frick...hoping you saw the last two posts here from me as they do a great job showing using two cupcake liners.

reply by: marybethproto on May 02, 2012 at 11:04 am
marybethproto

Thanks for the tip about the Reynolds foil-lined decorative cups. Has anyone else found that foil cups bake differently than paper cups? I have used both in the same pan at the same time, and the foil-cup cupcakes bake more quickly while also doming more than the paper-cup cupcakes. Next time I'll reduce the baking time for the foil cups, and I'll use the same type of cup in each pan.

reply by: swirth on May 02, 2012 at 11:09 am
swirth

Yes, the foil cupcake liners bake more quickly than any of the paper liner types...need to check them a couple of minutes sooner than you're used to doing for any recipes.

reply by: Livingwell on June 28, 2012 at 11:30 am
Livingwell

I just started baking cupcakes and am having a blast finding cute paper liners. I like the idea of using a white liner within the patterened one so the colors stay more vibrant, but where do you buy the white liners? Also, do the two liners stay together or separate after baking? Thanks for your help!

reply by: swirth on June 28, 2012 at 11:41 am
reply by: Livingwell on June 28, 2012 at 11:51 am
Livingwell

Thanks! I'll check them out. Do the two liners stick together (making one thicker liner) or separate after baking?

reply by: swirth on June 28, 2012 at 11:55 am
swirth

I know I forgot to answer that...as shown in the many pics from the KAF links, the liners stay together pretty much and don't separate after baking.

reply by: Livingwell on June 28, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Livingwell

WOW!!! If Kitchen Krafts doesn't have the cupcake liner you want, it hasn't been invented yet! Thanks again swirth!

reply by: wendyb964 on July 06, 2012 at 10:19 pm
wendyb964

Love, love, love foil baking cups! Many grocery stores carry them. I use them alomost exclusively. The cake stays moist for several days which is not the case with many lower-fat recipes or if they get a tad over-baked. A cupcake shop in town uses plain white/brown/colored cupcake liners to bake and then sets them in a decorative wrapper to sell.

reply by: Livingwell on July 07, 2012 at 8:10 am
Livingwell

Thanks for the info, Wendy! I am new to cupcake making and decorating and have never used the foil cups, but have a package of unopened, red ones on the shelf - Christmas is coming ;) Do the cupcakes take less time to bake in foil? I tried the tip posted by swirth of lining regular liners with white ones to keep the outside colors bright, and it worked! Thanks again, swirth!

reply by: swirth on July 07, 2012 at 8:56 am
swirth

Great news, Livingwell! Yes, the foil liners bake a lot faster and things can almost burn if you use the standard timing you'd use for paper liners. I love to bake brownies in my square muffin pan using foil liners...husband was an elementary teacher for 40 years and I baked many thousands of muffins, brownies, cupcakes and scones, etc., for his kids. He loved the brownies in the foil liners as it kept the greasy brownie crumbs better contained than cutting brownies from a pan...kept desks and floors cleaner, LOL! I loved to add a cute little seasonal pick to the square brownies sometimes and they were just adorable. Round liners work just fine in a square muffin pan.

reply by: Livingwell on July 08, 2012 at 8:08 am
Livingwell

Thanks, swirth! I'll be sure to keep a close eye on them when I use them. Would you believe I had a besutiful Chicago Metallic square muffin pan that I gave away because I only used it a few times in several years and didn't really have enough storage room?? Now that I've discovered making cupcakes, I wish I still had it!

reply by: Livingwell on July 08, 2012 at 8:09 am
Livingwell

Whoops! That should be beautiful, not bestutiful. Time for more coffee ;)

reply by: swirth on July 08, 2012 at 8:17 am
swirth

OMG, Livingwell...that's the brand I have and it is so super heavy! I use that pan for so many things and the kids always loved the square muffins and cupcakes and brownies. I even use it for mini dressing squares at holiday time when we have turkey...such handy cute little dressing servings. Really a great pan!

reply by: Livingwell on July 08, 2012 at 9:37 am
Livingwell

What an idiot to get rid of it, huh? I still have one Chicago Metallic round cupcake pan and am NOT getting rid of it!!! I would love to find more of the round and square, but don't want to go the e-bay, Amazon, on-line route. I also don't want non-stick. I have the non-stick Chicago Metallic cake pans and LOVE them, but don't like non-stick for everything. I bought their non-stick cookie sheets and loaf pans and didn't think they worked as well for me, so took them back. Their aluminum cookie sheets (that I found at the grocery store!) are great!

reply by: swirth on July 08, 2012 at 9:56 am
swirth

Many years ago, KAF contracted with CMetallic to make exclusive pans and such for them; every once in awhile, they'd offer some simply great little pans thru the catalogue. One of my absolute faves was the 7 x 3 loaf pans...they are just great for smaller or gifting loaves and making hot dog buns or great little sandwich slices of bread. So many of us went nuts when they offered these and we bought up a ton of them. Husband had such a happy look on his face when I first ordered these little pans and he could not believe how heavy they were for no bigger than they are.

It has been many years since they offered these. They also sold a great little 12 x 4 Danish loaf pan from CMetallic that I dearly love for 'wetter' quick breads like banana breads that always have a split and 'damper' area down the middle. This longer pan eliminates that 'wet split' as the batter is not so deep as in the typical quick bread pan sizes. They haven't offered that pan for ages either. They sold that size loaf pan in a stoneware or something like that more recently. I love to bake quick breads for a crowd in that size pan as the slices are so user-friendly and they look beautiful on a serving table.

reply by: Livingwell on July 08, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Livingwell

Swirth, sorry to be so late getting back to you. It's funny you mention King Arthur selling Chicago Metallic because I have been wracking my brain to remember where I bought the muffin tins I have (the square and the round), and have the teeniest, tiniest memory of getting them from King Arthur....maybe....perhaps....possibly?? I tried checking Chicago Metallic on-line and couldn't find them on their web site. I'm gonna keep my eyes out for them, though, as well as the 12X4 loaf pan you mentioned. It sounds perfect for banana bread, something I bake a lot. Have a nice evening!

reply by: swirth on July 09, 2012 at 5:28 pm
swirth

Just getting back online..lightning hit our house about 3:50P yesterday...god awful boom, scared us to death! Took out the phone and DSL lines and I just got those fixed back up. It has been 107F, 108F and 105F for two weeks and that kind of heat makes for powerful lightning. I was up all night checking our appliances and such to be sure they were OK after the hit.

KAF was where I got my CM square muffin pan and they said they were exclusive to KAF at that time. I never saw them on the CM website way back then so I think they were a special deal.

I've seen what I think would be cheaper/more flimsy square muffin pans in recent years but they were not CM. That pan weighs like lead, LOL! I just love that thing!

reply by: robinwaban on July 09, 2012 at 5:49 pm
robinwaban

Glad to hear you're ok, Swirth. What a scare! I love thunder and lightening when it's somewhere else . Hope your weather improves to where you're comfortable and back to your crazy busy self.

reply by: Livingwell on July 09, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Livingwell

YIKES!!! Glad to hear you're OK. Still trying to figure out where I got the tins. I looked at Sur La Table's web site and they have the round Chicago Metallic muffin tins, so I'm going to try and make it over there this week and look at, and hopefully buy, them! I'll let you know if I have any luck. And stay safe!

reply by: omaria on July 09, 2012 at 11:52 pm
omaria

Swirth, what an awful weather you had. And than being hit by lightning. I used to be sooo scared for thunder and lightning.My mother would take my brothers and me out of bed, dress us and we would go downstairs to wait out the storm, ready to flee if lightning would strike and put the house on fire. Storms would last a long time. People said the storm could not cross the river and that is why it stayed in our town so long. 2 homes burned down on our street, so my dad could not talk her out of taking us downstairs.
Livingwell, I am replacing all my old cheap bakeware with USA bakeware. KAF has it and also Bed,Bath and Beyond. It is extremely well made and I love it.

reply by: Livingwell on July 10, 2012 at 8:00 am
Livingwell

Thanks for the tip, omaria. Is that the ridged bakeware I've seen at Bed, Bath & Beyond? They look interesting, but I'm not too crazy about the ridges.

reply by: omaria on July 10, 2012 at 10:43 am
omaria

Yes it is. I don't know why the ridges are there. Maybe so baked things come out easier ? But they work great. Everything in it browns evenly. I really like them.

reply by: swirth on July 10, 2012 at 11:20 am
swirth

Omaria...I can certainly understand your mother's concerns! We have ungodly lightning here at the house all the time; 14 acre woods with very old, tall trees and a creek. We've always noticed how tornadoes and lightning follow creeks and railroads and rivers. When I was a kid, we canned and froze over 500 cans of fruits and veggies and filled 4 freezers with fruits, meats, nuts, veggies and more. We did most of this in our basement where we could hose down a lot of the mess and it was cooler down there than in the upstairs house. I always washed all the cans ahead of the canning sprees that went on for months. We were having a lightning storm one day when I was using a ton of hot scalding water to wash the cans; I guess lightning struck very near the water pipe above my sink operation and I got the most awful shock down my left arm! It hurt for weeks and felt weak from that lightning bolt. Another time, my dad was trying to get into his truck while out baling hay for our dairy herd...he baled off the tractor as the storm was getting very close and the lightning struck near enough to him that his knees buckled and he fell to the ground. He got up OK but it scared him to near death.

Sunday, when I found out it got our phones, I took a phone out to the NID box from phone co. and plugged my phone into the port to see if I had a dial tone outside. They tell us to do this as a check...if there is no dial tone outside, it is on the phone co. lines for miles and miles that have to be checked. If a dial tone is outside and none inside, it in the house wiring or jacks or phones. Mine was dead outside. Husband told me to look for burned places or the smell of something burned...I didn't find any of that.

But, yesterday when the phone guy came, he said there was a little thing that he could replace in the box that sometimes fixes things. He said my next door neighbors lost their phones and he put this thing in for them and it fixed them up. When he removed the little 'breaker' looking thing that looks like a breaker in an electric panel box, he said look at that burned place...it looked like a half dollar brown spot that got very hot from the lightning surge. He said the neighbors didn't have that burned place. So I was anxiously hoping when he hooked it all back up that it would be fixed. I held my breath that we wouldn't have to crawl around in the attic and make holes in our plaster walls to put in new wiring. It was OK when he hooked it all back up outside and I tried my phones and DSL and all was OK so I'd say we were very lucky that box stopped the surge and the wiring didn't catch on fire in the attic and walls.

I hope things simmer down for a spell now. I felt so relieved after he left that we were spared of much worse.

reply by: Livingwell on July 13, 2012 at 8:18 am
Livingwell

Swirth, I went to Sur La Table yesterday to see if they have the Chicago Metallic square muffin tin.....nope :( They did have the round CM tins, but I already have those, so didn't buy more. BUT, I did get some nice muffin liners on sale! I could spend a fortune in that store!!!

reply by: swirth on July 13, 2012 at 8:52 am
swirth

Great you got some muffin papers on sale. What I love about the CM square muffin pan is those extra wide edges on both ends to really get ahold of the pan when taking from oven...plus the heftiness of the pan.